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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:06 am    Post subject: Superstreet Class Summary Reply with quote

The Superstreet class if for non-licensed riders only. Any racer possessing a valid roadracing license from any club is ineligible for this class. There are no trophies or season points for this class. A day license will be included in entry fees. The MRA adopted this class idea as a way to give sportbike riders and trackday enthusiasts an easy way to try out roadracing, without having to make a full commitment. Basically, if you can ride at a trackday you can race in the Superstreet class. Costs for entry are low compared to the other sprint classes, and bike prep is minimal. We hope this allows people to "get their feet wet" and see if roadracing is truly for them.

The Superstreet class is going to include a classroom session the day of the event. It is required that all participants are ready for the classroom/registration portion at 12:30pm sharp. It is also suggested that you show up to the track by 11:30am in order to unload your truck and set up your pits. All bikes must be unloaded and ready to go at 12:30pm. After the classroom/registration portion, we will go through bike tech which requires all bikes to be COLD. If you ride your bike to the track, allow adequate time for engine cooling. Any bike still hot will not pass tech due to us not being able to check coolant. There will NOT be time to unload and setup your bike after the classroom/registration period, so please be sure that you are 100% ready to go prior to 12:30pm. The classroom portion will be roughly 1 hour. After that, we will hold practice, practice starts and then the race.

Cost for the Superstreet class and race will be $100. You are also required to be an AMA member, which can be purchased the day of the event at an additional charge (current AMA membership price is $39 per year).

** Note that it is MUCH easier and faster to get an AMA membership online PRIOR to the school event - AND if you do it online they include a roadside benefit (ala AAA) with the membership. Just print a copy of the card and you're good to go! Click here to join:

http://www.ama-cycle.org/join/index.asp

Bike tech is as follows:
a) Unlimited displacement, modifications and engine configurations.
b) Coolant: only water, Red Line Water Wetter, Royal Purple Ice (NOT Engine Ice or Evans coolant), or Silkolene Pro CCA coolant additives are allowed in liquid cooled motorcycles. Glycol based substances are prohibited. For the purpose of this rulebook, motorcycles which use engine oil as a primary cooling fluid are considered to be air-cooled.
c) Neat and clean. Motorcycles that are dirty or show potentially dangerous bodywork damage will not be approved.
d) Tires must be in good condition and may not be re-caps. Valve caps must be installed. Tread must be at least 50%.
e) All motorcycles must have operational front and rear brakes, with at least 50% thickness.
f) All motorcycles must have an operational handlebar-mounted kill switch or button.
g) All motorcycles must have a self-closing throttle.
h) All lights and blinkers must be taped or removed. Brake and taillights must be disconnected. Side mirrors must be removed.
i) Side stands can remain on bike but must have good working return spring.
j) Silicone brake fluid is not allowed (DOT 5 Brake Fluid).
k) An MRA provided decal will be displayed on both sides of the bike at least axle line high or higher.
l) All machines will be left to VP of Rules and Tech final approval.
m) All competitors must possess a current AMA membership.
n) Riders must meet requirements as defined in section 5.1 Rider Equipment.
o) All riders must conform to and have an understanding of Sections 8, 9, 10 and 11 of this rulebook.
p) The rider bears the responsibility of presenting a motorcycle in conformance with all requirements.
q) All motorcycles and rider equipment must pass MRA technical inspection before participating in any practice session, race or school.
r) The burden of complying with the rules regarding class suitability and technical requirements rests with the entrant. It is his/her responsibility to seek approval of the VP or Rules & Tech of any areas in question.
s) The VP of Rules & Tech or any MRA official reserves the right to inspect any race motorcycle or rider apparel or equipment at any time during race day for compliance to MRA technical standards and may revoke the Technical Inspection Approval Sticker of any motorcycle at any time during the race day.
t) Any motorcycle or rider involved in a crash will be subject to re-inspection. Damage that in any way endangers rider safety must be repaired prior to starting or continuing any further practice or competition.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you guys know what day of the weekend we will run this class?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty,

I'm still working out the weekend race schedule, but the plan is for this to take place on Saturday. The current plan is for there to be a training session in the intermission between the endurance races and the race taking place as the last event of the day.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can current mra novices and experts run this class?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty,

No. This class is only available to riders who DO NOT possess any kind of race license.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we will get more interest if the class was priced more like an endurance race at $50 or even $75. Although I can see the need for the extra cost due to the amount resources and time allowed for class at the track. Who is doing the "classroom" time (I assume rider reps, rider director, track marshal)?

Thanks for the additional info!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new rider director will be in charge of the class.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm I dont have a race license..... Think
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JWinter wrote:
I think we will get more interest if the class was priced more like an endurance race at $50 or even $75.

Thanks for the additional info!


Even to do just the endurance race, you'd have to have a license (either one day or full season)... so the cost is comparable. One day license fee is $50, so really it's only $50 for the classroom, on track instruction, and race.

We'll just have to wait and see how participation works out. If it's poor, I doubt that $25 will be the issue.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hmmm I dont have a race license..... Think


An interesting point, but in your case you are still eligible for one, so it really would be cheaper for you just to come endurance racing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JWinter wrote:
I think we will get more interest if the class was priced more like an endurance race at $50 or even $75. Although I can see the need for the extra cost due to the amount resources and time allowed for class at the track. Who is doing the "classroom" time (I assume rider reps, rider director, track marshal)?

Thanks for the additional info!


Jeff,

Yes, I see your point, but the reality of the situation is that a lot of resources are in play to make this happen. At a minimum, me, the new rider director, the VP of rules and tech, several rider reps and a least an hour of track time are in motion here. $100 is a pretty good value when you consider the following:

MRA Race School: $200
MRA license: $125
Endurance entry fee: $60 per race

Divided out over an 8 race season: $100.62 per race (if you do one race per weekend)

After doing 2 of the superstreet races, with the approval of the new rider director, these riders can apply for a novice race license without taking any additional schooling.

Now in their second season:

MRA license: $125
Endurance entry fee: $60

$75.62 per race assuming an 8 race season.

All in all it's a really good deal and I hope a large group of people take advantage of it.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No. This class is only available to riders who DO NOT possess any kind of race license.

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hmmmmmm.....why not?

Let's say Marty has a street bike Ducati 748. That he does not want to race prep. Or try to race competatively. Why not allow him to ride it in this class and take his money?

There's many Mra racers that might have street bikes in their garage that they'd like ride get out on track but don't want to do a full race prep or care about points

truthfully having experts riders out there may help the novice riders with lines, procedure, etc....

As long as they are only entereing a streetbike in this class not a racebike(which would look intimidating to a new rider just showing up). I don't see a problem at all letting existing Mra riders pay extra money to the club.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Btw correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't one of the major ideas of this class to get new riders ?

That said a new rider is going to be intimidated by seeing a fully race prepped bikes in this class. And this may deter him.

Don't you think the rules for this class should clearly state something that keeps race bikes out? If your new and gonna race with and bought a purpose built race bike then you should be just racing it in the novice points classes.

There should be some defining rules as what constitutes a race bike and keeps it out of this streetbike class.

Really could be a rule as simple as: any bike with number plates or the headlights removed constitutes a "racebike"
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Marty,

No. This class is only available to riders who DO NOT possess any kind of race license.

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hmmmmmm.....why not?

Let's say Marty has a street bike Ducati 748. That he does not want to race prep. Or try to race competatively. Why not allow him to ride it in this class and take his money?

There's many Mra racers that might have street bikes in their garage that they'd like ride get out on track but don't want to do a full race prep or care about points

truthfully having experts riders out there may help the novice riders with lines, procedure, etc....

As long as they are only entereing a streetbike in this class. I don't see a problem at all letting existing Mra riders pay extra money to the club.


Well, for one thing, I don't see why he would do it.

The cost for the Superstreet class is $100. Why would a licensed racer spend another $100 to race a streetbike in a class where there is no contingency, no points, no championship when he can enter his race bike in an additional class for $20 and possibly get some contingency dollars?

As far as having the racebikes in the class, one of our target clients would be the person who already has someone racing on the grid. This person may let their "friend" use their racebike to try it out and we would like to encourage this kind of participation.

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Well, for one thing, I don't see why he would do it.

The cost for the Superstreet class is $100. Why would a licensed racer spend another $100 to race a streetbike in a class where there is no contingency, no points, no championship


Because I wouldn't have to spend $5000 just to get my crap street bike race-prepped into something respectable. I don't need contingency or a championship if I don't have spend a shit ton on bike prep. (EX250 class anyone??) I could slap some DOTs on and run around on the track against other under-prepared motorcycles and simply enjoy myself on the cheap.

I too initially thought this was an open class for all under-prepared motorcycles essentially, although the crux seems more focused on getting new racers. I don't have much of an opinion either way on this (but I guess I could given enough Sweet Tea Vodka) -- I am mostly just adding an opinion.
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Hey Benicillin

Wouldn't you agree that the capability of the motorcycle isn't the determining factor when the rider is new to the race track?

huh

My bike is stock. It has never been raced, do you think I should enter?

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rybo wrote:

Well, for one thing, I don't see why he would do it.

The cost for the Superstreet class is $100. Why would a licensed racer spend another $100 to race a streetbike in a class where there is no contingency, no points, no championship


Because I wouldn't have to spend $5000 just to get my crap street bike race-prepped into something respectable. I don't need contingency or a championship if I don't have spend a shit ton on bike prep. (EX250 class anyone??) I could slap some DOTs on and run around on the track against other under-prepared motorcycles and simply enjoy myself on the cheap.

I too initially thought this was an open class for all under-prepared motorcycles essentially, although the crux seems more focused on getting new racers. I don't have much of an opinion either way on this (but I guess I could given enough Sweet Tea Vodka) -- I am mostly just adding an opinion.


Dave,

Yeah, the goal of this class is to draw new people in not create a class for existing members to use underprepared streetbikes in.

That being said, I'm all for a spec ninja 250 class or a spec sv650 class. I'd be the first guy to buy a bike if we had something like that. (well, maybe the second as I think you would be into something like this too).

Let's make it happen, let's start now creating some enthusiasm for it and get it into the 2011 season. If you're serious you might even start a new topic for that discussion!

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Because he may have a bike he doesn't want to race prep enough to ride in normal races.

There's guys out there with desmosdici's. Know of two. That don't want to race prep them. But would like to dice it up.

And they are licensed rider already. And do have the extra cash to pay $100. To turn a wheel in anger on their desmo streetbike. But not worry about someone chasing points and running them off the track.
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Mark Schellinger wrote:
Hey Benicillin

Wouldn't you agree that the capability of the motorcycle isn't the determining factor when the rider is new to the race track?

huh

My bike is stock. It has never been raced, do you think I should enter?

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acutally yes, I was going to bring you up here, because maybe you have a new rider your instructing then he decides he wants to try out the street class but is a little scared, so we allow you to ride this class as a hand holding measure for your students.

Ad the rule sits, you can't because your a licensed racer
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I like the way it is structured. I am sure there are plenty of people out there that have track day bikes and never race. If we exclude their bikes that would keep a lot of potiential new riders out. Also if you let established racers out there regardless of what bike they are on, knowing the track etc the lap times will be very different regardless of the bike. I think controlling the rider and not the bike is the best way for this class. Good job MRA. It should be fun to watch them too.
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