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| OUTLAWD
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 Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:41 am Post subject: Wheel weights or balance beads...? |
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Just wondering what the preferred balancing method is amongst you racer types.
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| The GECCO
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:57 am Post subject: |
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The beads are a joke, IMO. At least one of the tire manufacturers will not honor the tire warranty if you use them.
Regular weights are the way to go. It's also best to balance the wheel w/o a tire on it, then mark those weights somehow so that when the trackside vendor knows not to strip them off. This helps in two ways - one, it saves your vendor time and materials, and two, it tells you exactly how far out of balance the TIRE is. If it takes too much weight to balance it could be an indicator of a manufacturing flaw.
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| OUTLAWD
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Thanks! actually makes ALOT of sense.
and speaking of trackside vendors, i know vanmar is there with michelins, are b-stones, or other tires sold at the track during a race weekend? |
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| rybo
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Dave,
Faster will sell b-stones at their shop, but won't be offering trackside service this year
Pirelli will be offered trackside bt Lithium motorspots for 2010
and I've heard a rumor about a Dunlop vendor trackside, but have nothing confirmed
See the above advice from Glenn on balancing, weights and beads. I agree with what he said.
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| OUTLAWD
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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hmm...maybe I'll convince my wallet that I should stick with the michelins for simplicity's sake...they seem to be the popular hides...
as far as balancing goes, I'm assuming there are some new fancy digital ones that people are using over the old ball bearing/spinning by hand setup? or are the manual rigs normally sufficient?
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| cromer611
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| nwatkins176
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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I am lost... WTF are tire beeds, how do those work?
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| rybo
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| Hotrod
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| cromer611 wrote: | im sure the lovely people in the vanmar pits would love to have beads everywhere when they change tires  |
Um... I'll pass... 
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| Bartman
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Tire beads is like snake oil for your motor. Possibly one of the dumbest ideas ever, as far as balancing goes the best balance is done manually not by machine. I does take more talent to do it manual but all your tire vendors have done so many that most can do it blindfolded.
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| nwatkins176
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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So when you stop, these beads keep traveling through your tire. then when you go cintripicle force, forces them to the out side of the tire. Umm no thank you. Put my weights on and some black duct tape thank you.
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