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| LordLosh
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I just want to throw my 2 cents in. If i didn't love my street bike more then i love my own mother ("and i Still love my mommy a lot") i may want to race it. Having said that i wouldn't want to race it with fellow racers, no offense but if you want more people to come out and enjoy it then let them win. Having experienced racers out their with their street bikes blowing by them in turns and straights is not going to make it fun for some one that just wanted to try it. If that many of you fellow racers want to race your street bike then why not just add another class just for you guys?
Also when are these races going to take place? hopefully at the end of the day right? |
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| marty
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:20 am Post subject: |
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would an acceptable compromise be, IF we have any mra members who want to race their street bikes, could we put them in a first wave. this way the street guys could still race for a win and the desmos and the like could still have some open track to rip it up.
lap traffic would still be an issue but i would guess most mra guys and gals would try to make more "gingerly" passes if they were on their nice street machines when passing a more timid lapped street rider.
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| rybo
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| rybo wrote: | Marty,
I'm still working out the weekend race schedule, but the plan is for this to take place on Saturday. The current plan is for there to be a training session in the intermission between the endurance races and the race taking place as the last event of the day.
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Here you go Mr. Losh!
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| rybo
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| Bueller999 wrote: |
I have not held a license since 2006, and I have been thinking that this might be fun, and possibly on more than a few races. I have no desire to come back to the normal grids, but this is a possibility. Would I be legit to enter and if so would I have to do the class room stuff every time or even the first time? And possibly a price break for not requiring the instructional part.
Keep in mind I am on a bike that puts out stock SV650 power  |
Dave,
Please understand that the superstreet class is a marketing tool for us. We are trying to increase membership as a whole. Therefore we are going to require anyone who wants to race in the class to take the instructional portion every weekend.
If people want to come and grid up and race, that's great. To avoid taking the class we're going to require them to have a full MRA race license. If you want to come out and play, then it's going to mean some class time every weekend.
Marty,
At this point my vote is to leave it as it is. What we're trying to do as an organization is create a safe space for learning during our race weekend and encourage the participation of new riders.
I'd be happy to revisit this discussion after we've done it a few times and see how it goes. At this point I think we have a good foundation of what we would LIKE this to look like, but it's going to take a couple rounds of doing it to get the bugs worked out before I'm interested in modifying it much.
As an aside to all: This rule change proposal was made in August of 2009. It's been discussed on the forums, there was a rule change meeting and a number of opportunities to voice opinions about how this should be executed. I guess my point is this, I find it a bit disappointing that with those opportunities presented that it isn't until AFTER the final rule is announced that we are anxious to debate it. Decisions are made by the people who show up.
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| Bueller999
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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I understand the marketing part, I don't understand the viability part. If the class is successful at its "goal" it will die due to attrition. IMO you have to encougage repeat offenders. And you still didn't answer my question. Am I legit to run in this, does the MRA want my $
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| rybo
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Bueller999 wrote: | | I understand the marketing part, I don't understand the viability part. If the class is successful at its "goal" it will die due to attrition. IMO you have to encougage repeat offenders. And you still didn't answer my question. Am I legit to run in this, does the MRA want my $ |
Yes, to be "legit" you cannot be eligible for a race license. Since you are more than 3 years expired, you are legal. (and for sure we want your money...)
Yes, the idea would be for the class to die of attrition, that's the ideal situation, but new riders are created every day. My guess is that we will see a strong interest in the class at the beginning of the season with some folks either converting or quitting as the season progresses, with a resurgence of interest again in the early part of 2011.
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| dave.gallant
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| rybo wrote: | | Bueller999 wrote: | | I understand the marketing part, I don't understand the viability part. If the class is successful at its "goal" it will die due to attrition. IMO you have to encougage repeat offenders. And you still didn't answer my question. Am I legit to run in this, does the MRA want my $ |
Yes, to be "legit" you cannot be eligible for a race license. Since you are more than 3 years expired, you are legal. (and for sure we want your money...) |
Does it actually state this in the rule change wording? I thought the initial wording was "not current MRA racing member".
3 years post license applies to a Novice MRA Race License specifically.
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| oldtimer
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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After last year the whole club agreed we need to grow our membership and be more welcoming to new people. That was the impetus behind creating the superstreet class. The goal is to keep it a fun friendly stepping stone, lower key than say, Novice GTU. It's the only class a superstreet racer (who's not licensed) can run. The target superstreet entrant is a track day rider who's curious about racing, or someone who's been away from the club for a while. The goal of this event is to breath new life into the MRA.
For the racers who are disappointed at not being allowed into superstreet--we often hear from the track day riders that they're worried about being too slow, or being buzzed by racers. That's why we're keen to keep it a protected class for new guys. This is uncharted territory, but I'm optimistic that it could really build our membership if we give it a chance.
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| dragos13
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| dave.gallant wrote: | Does it actually state this in the rule change wording? I thought the initial wording was "not current MRA racing member".
3 years post license applies to a Novice MRA Race License specifically. |
You are correct on the wording. There will not be a post 3 year license rule for this class. So, if you raced last year but this year decide to NOT get a race license, you can definitely come down and run the Superstreet class. This could be on your old race bike or your current commuter.
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| motolitho
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:20 pm Post subject: IMO |
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Hello, I am sort of new here and wanted to let you know that I seem to be the demographic targeted. I have run several track days last year and am looking forward to expanding that to racing with the MRA. I am slowly prepping my bike, but have some pricey bits yet to buy and may not be able to come up with the cash to be ready in time. SO- this new class will afford me a couple of nice privileges, get the feet wet, more track time, get to know you guys... and generally gather as much info as possible to prepare for 2011.
I am on the wrong bike (GSXR100), a little out of shape, and more than apprehensive about dicing it up with some dude on a desmosdici or whatever that packs a race license and a hell of a lot of corner speed... sorry guys- I know its YOUR job to get around me. I need some time to get up to speed- I would much rather better my 2:15 at HPR before entering a real race. Not to mention the time I need to get my suspension even close and try take offs for the first time. This class is for us- and a DAMN good idea!
On the PR side- you guys have my info- I attended the SS meeting. I am also on the Chicane customers list. No one has contacted me personally about the updates to this class other than finding this thread and talking to Bartman at Faster. You guys can do better to reach out. I even offered someone in charge of PR to help- I work for a commercial printer and offered to print for free. No response.
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| UglyDogRacing
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:32 am Post subject: Re: IMO |
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| motolitho wrote: |
On the PR side- you guys have my info- I attended the SS meeting. I am also on the Chicane customers list. No one has contacted me personally about the updates to this class other than finding this thread and talking to Bartman at Faster. You guys can do better to reach out. I even offered someone in charge of PR to help- I work for a commercial printer and offered to print for free. No response.
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Chris,
On behalf of the MRA's PR effort, I apologize that I did not contact you personally. I did contact those that offered me printing help and unfortunately I do not recall our conversation nor receiving your contact information. It could have been an oversight on my part. If you would, please PM me your contact information and we can discuss offline the MRA's printing needs.
Chicane is a separate organization and not affiliated with the MRA so we do not have their customer list.
Super Street is a new class for 2010 and the rules were just finalized recently. We have tried our best to get this information out to all potential SS competitors. This has included posting the rules on multiple forums, email distributions, the MRA's facebook page, and holding clinics like the one you attended at the Walnut Room and the upcoming scheduled clinics. Unfortunately attempting to call each interested individual personally to go over the rules would be a tedious undertaking so the MRA has relied on publicly posting the rules. I'm sure our Rider Rep overseeing the rulebook, Casey Dragos, would be happy to speak with you further on the rules.
Thanks for bringing these deficiencies to our attention and we will try to do a better job reaching out to everyone.
Jim
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| dragos13
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: |
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I would absolutely be happy to help with the rules regarding the Superstreet class or anything else for that matter.
I can be reached via PM on this forum or my email address listed below. Feel free to send over any questions or concerns you have about racing.
As Jim said, we cannot call EVERY rider but we are here to answer any calls  I hope that helps!
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| motolitho
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:40 am Post subject: |
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No worries... I was just offering my opinion. I have had no issues getting the info I need. I just deal with marketing on a daily basis and thought an email blast or small direct mail piece may be in order.  |
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| Mark Schellinger
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: IMO |
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| motolitho wrote: |
I am on the wrong bike (GSXR100),
Chris Burford |
DUDE... you really are on the wrong bike.
But if your doing 2:15's at HPR on a 100 you may be on to something. lol
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| T Baggins
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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If we have the SS rules and everything completely settled, then it would do no harm to do an e-mail blast. Scott, Jim, Rybo - is it buttoned up and ready for the masses?
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| motolitho
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: IMO |
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| Mark Schellinger wrote: | | motolitho wrote: |
I am on the wrong bike (GSXR100),
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DUDE... you really are on the wrong bike.
But if your doing 2:15's at HPR on a 100 you may be on to something. lol |
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| Snowman
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| Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Being an AMA member but not an MRA one yet, I would like to pre-register for the first two races if that is a possibility, or will this be a first come first serve kinda deal? |
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| OUTLAWD
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:46 am Post subject: |
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trying to get pole position, eh..?
but your dirty bird is soo intimidating, ya know, cuz its a track bike
as a potential for this class, I'd just like to say that I think it would be nice to have some experienced eyes out there on the track(not competing necessarily)...granted, getting blown by like you are standing still may seem discouraging, but you aren't going to get any faster following riders with little/no experience, however, you may be able to pick up a few things from someone with a bit more track time.
and speaking from experience, I'd much rather be passed by someone who knows what there doing, then get stuffed in a corner by a fellow noob |
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| T Baggins
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| Snowman wrote: | | Being an AMA member but not an MRA one yet, I would like to pre-register for the first two races if that is a possibility, or will this be a first come first serve kinda deal? |
first come first served for now, though we may offer an "online payment" system for SS before the season starts. We're working on other things at the moment, but this "is" on the list of things to do.
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| Mforza
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:05 am Post subject: |
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As I'm not getting the licence this year I think I will take my 1972 GT550 and race this class sometimes
Might be fun to race against the new bikes on this "old lady"
Can I do that?
This bike have only about 60hp so I would be somewhere around 2:30 - 2:45 lap times
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