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    Safety Wire Suggestions

    I am hoping to get my '07 Daytona 675 ready for Novice this year and I have a question about bolt safety wiring; I see three options (any others?), and I am wondering what anyone suggests??

    1) Drill and wire all bolts myself in compliance with regulations
    2) Take the bike to a shop that will set it up (price?)
    3) Buy a pre-drilled safety bolt kit (brand?)

    I appreciate the help in advance! Thanks!


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    Do it yourself.

    once you get started it won't take that long. have a good supply of drill bits on hand and take your time.

    I can do a complete bike in about 1.5 hours start to finish these days. First time through might take you a little longer.
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    Agreed .... It's good to get yourself trained to doing all the time too.
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    Buy quality drill bits and use a little bit of oil on the tip to keep them from wearing out faster.

    Also, you can either drill while the bolts are on the bike (thats what I prefer) or pull them off and put them in a clamp. Pay attention to where you are drilling so that the wire will be holding the bolt from turning out. Here is a good picture for different examples:

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    If you have access use a drill press, low speed is you friend.

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    Like the guys said...have plenty of bits. I broke a ton of bits my first time. Go slow and have a ton of patience on the hardened bolts. Some will drill through like butter and others seem to take 10 minutes oer bolt. I think I went to Ace 5 times the first bike I did...and it wasn't even a complete bike. DeWalt 3/16 bits last longest for me.
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    Ace hardware hard steel bits

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    Thanks a lot guys, Desmodromico as well! I appreciate all the help, pictures and all!

    I'll be giving it a shot next week.

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    Any requirements/suggestions on type/material of wire to use? I noticed in the rulebook it mentions 0.032" diameter but not much else.

    Thanks!

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    the wire I'm using is stainless steel

    check Faster! motosports, I'm pretty sure they have what you need in stock.
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    Anyone know of a source for 0.032 wire in Colorado Springs? All I can find is 0.041?

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    I talked to someone at Faster! Motorsports today and they said they had 0.028". Not exactly in Co Springs though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevEd614
    I talked to someone at Faster! Motorsports today and they said they had 0.028". Not exactly in Co Springs though.
    Thanks, That may be my only option? Just hate to spend $30 in gas to go get $5 worth of wire.


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    If you find it for $5 LMK where.
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    Well, okay, I don't want to spend $30 in gas for $15 worth of wire :-)

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    I am all for buying local whenever possible but if you're in a jam:

    http://www.amazon.com/Allstar-Perfor...6466875&sr=8-1

    Ships free 2-day if you have a prime account. If you don't have prime, you can probably add some other items to get to $25 and get standard shipping free. Another option, if you are in a bind, you can paypal me the $17 and I'll have it shipped to you (I have a prime account). You'd have it Monday. Or send over $21 and you SHOULD have it Saturday via overnight shipping.
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    Another question on what needs to be wired?

    Do you have to do radiator hose clamps? I've done the radiator cap and of course the oil related stuff (filler cap, dip stick, filter and drain plugs) and I think I have the brakes covered (banjos, caliper bolts and pad pins), Also have the front axle and pinch bolts drilled as well as the rear axle.

    Am I missing anything else?

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    Got it, Thanks Carl.

    I think I have it covered then
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    I am curious of Carl;s answer about any other bolts to safety wire. Either of you want to forward me that?

    Thanks!

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    If you have a Milling machine or drill press with a nice fixed vise, you can brill everything without breaking 1 bit, it takes starter holes then reposition the bolt in vise, and bore right through it. Look at rules and wire what is required. Brake caliper bolts, axle bolts, drain plugs, etc. Brake lever pivot bolt is not in rule book, but is required by Bart.... Make sure everything else is tight, and don't wire up a bunch of crap uneccessarily. If you want I can take pics of all my safety wired components so you can see exactly how to wire what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastt Racing
    Look at rules and wire what is required. Brake caliper bolts, axle bolts, drain plugs, etc. Brake lever pivot bolt is not in rule book, but is required by Bart.... Make sure everything else is tight, and don't wire up a bunch of crap uneccessarily.
    This is were I am having issue. I read the rule book and it's not exactly cut and dry. Some things are obvious but others are not. If it is not in the rule book but Bart requires it how am I ever to know until I show up to race?

    This is what I have done/been told so far on my 675:

    Brakes: Caliper bolts, banjo bolts at caliper and at master cyl., and the pin that goes through the pads.

    Axles: Front pinch bolts and axle, rear axle

    Oil: Drain plug, Filter, filler cap, dip stick.

    Radiator: Cap

    Can someone from the MRA staff confirm 100% that this is all I need to be legit? I really don't want to show up Saturday to race and get turned away because something wasn't drilled/wired.


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    Someone from the board can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you got all of it JP. The pivot on the brake master cylinder is only for the Brembo masters is what I was told. It's not a bad thing to wire extra stuff, but what you listed is all that's required. Things like hose clamps, exhaust springs can never hurt, I even did my cam chain tensioner bolts just for piece of mind.
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    Any of you Daytona guys have a picture of your brake bleeder/pinch bolts safety wired? I am trying to figure out how to drill it.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevEd614
    Any of you Daytona guys have a picture of your brake bleeder/pinch bolts safety wired? I am trying to figure out how to drill it.

    Thanks!

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    I didn't wire the bleeder bolt, just the banjo bolt (that holds the line on the caliper and master cyl), the 2 mounting bolt and the pin that goes through the pads. I'll take a pic in a bit and post it up.


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