CF bodywork Legal....

[NossLou]

Carbon Bodywork.... I could not find anything in the rulebook where I looked that says this is not legal. I understand a CF tank would not be something to even think of however due to safety issues in a spill. Can someone straighten me out here????

I have seen bikes with CF R+F fenders, undertails, and heel guards let alone other bling things, but I can not find a listing against full CF racebodywork in the rulebook. I mean safety wise, what is the difference between CF bits on bike and CF as bodywork?

I have asked a ton of others and they said they have never heard of it being against the rules.

Only reason I ask is I got a OPP set from a fellow for a cost cheaper than new sharkskins bodywork...

Bart can you chime in???

Much appreciated

Nik

[rybo]

It's totally legal as long as the belly pan has the capacity to hold 3 liters of fluid without dumping it on the track.

The material is irrelevant, the mounting and fluid capacity is.

Nice find!

s

[racedk6]

Explain please:

j. Body parts and fairing (not including fuel tank).
1. Size and dimensions must be the same as the original parts.
2. Construction must be of plastic or fiberglass composites, but
not other fiber composites such as carbon or aramid fiber.

Straight from the 2010 rule book.

Nik Im not trying to bust your balls or anything but I dont want you to get protested over something like this.

This is for Super Sport rules as far as I can tell. But it might apply to all classes.

[Scored51]

However, it has been the experience of this club that transponders will not transmit through carbon fiber bodywork. Therefore you may have an issue to ensure the mounting complies with the rules and works on the track.

[oldtimer]

Explain please:

j. Body parts and fairing (not including fuel tank).
1. Size and dimensions must be the same as the original parts.
2. Construction must be of plastic or fiberglass composites, but
not other fiber composites such as carbon or aramid fiber.

Straight from the 2010 rule book.

Nik Im not trying to bust your balls or anything but I dont want you to get protested over something like this.

This is for Super Sport rules as far as I can tell. But it might apply to all classes.

Maybe just applies to SuperSport. Tell Nikolas to look out so his carbon fiber goodness doesn't get claimed! :shock:

[oldtimer]

Speaking of claiming, Grubbs are you going to run zoot wheels in Supersport? Cuz I was thinking I wouldn't buy new ones if yours are available for claiming. 8)

[rybo]

Explain please:

j. Body parts and fairing (not including fuel tank).
1. Size and dimensions must be the same as the original parts.
2. Construction must be of plastic or fiberglass composites, but
not other fiber composites such as carbon or aramid fiber.

Straight from the 2010 rule book.

Nik Im not trying to bust your balls or anything but I dont want you to get protested over something like this.

This is for Super Sport rules as far as I can tell. But it might apply to all classes.

Grubbs,

These rules are specific to the Supersport class. In Superbike classes (includes novice, amateur and endurance classes) the style of the bodywork is not bound by the rules.

Scott

[The GECCO]

Explain please:

j. Body parts and fairing (not including fuel tank).
1. Size and dimensions must be the same as the original parts.
2. Construction must be of plastic or fiberglass composites, but
not other fiber composites such as carbon or aramid fiber.

Straight from the 2010 rule book.

Nik Im not trying to bust your balls or anything but I dont want you to get protested over something like this.

This is for Super Sport rules as far as I can tell. But it might apply to all classes.

This applies to SS classes only, so it depends on what classes Nik intends to enter.

[rybo]

Speaking of claiming, Grubbs are you going to run zoot wheels in Supersport? Cuz I was thinking I wouldn't buy new ones if yours are available for claiming. 8)

Hmmmm....I hope he isn't planning on running zoot wheels in supersport as that would mean he would likely get disqualified.

As far as I know the only parts that are "claimable" are listed in the rulebook:

ECU
Tires
Exhaust

Maybe someone should write a rule change suggestion to change that for 2011.

[oldtimer]

Hmmmm....I hope he isn't planning on running zoot wheels in supersport as that would mean he would likely get disqualified.

ZOMG! :shock:



DQ'd is totally unreasonable and cruel to Grubbs!!! I was thinking more like let him keep his points and I claim the wheels for $1. Much more fair and I dont have to buy new wheels. win-win O

[NossLou]

Explain please:

j. Body parts and fairing (not including fuel tank).
1. Size and dimensions must be the same as the original parts.
2. Construction must be of plastic or fiberglass composites, but
not other fiber composites such as carbon or aramid fiber.

Straight from the 2010 rule book.

Nik Im not trying to bust your balls or anything but I dont want you to get protested over something like this.

This is for Super Sport rules as far as I can tell. But it might apply to all classes.

I appreciate it Steve that's what I was looking for... I fail to follow at #3 on that list since its made out of CF and I will run my current bodywork covered in carbon rap for SS In all honesty I just got a great deal on the stuff and couldn't pass it up so that's why I bought it. So according to the rulebook CF will not be allowed in SS correct?

Any other classes I should not run it in?

Participating in :

AMU
AMO
MWSB
MWSS
MW Endurance.


Any other opinions? I appreciate all your replies and was just curious since I didn't want it to bust my nuts after a race....

On another note I could care less about the weight shaving... I could go rexy if I was hardcore on getting skinny :twisted: it looks neat to me... :twisted: that is all... bodywork isn't going to make me any faster:idea: Glad I checked with you all first and the heads up was worth it!

Thanks again

Nik

[NossLou]

The heads up on the CF and transponder transmitting has me wondering...I have a pouch high up on my forks well out of the way of any interference with the signal hitting the receiver...Although thats an interesting point.... I guess I can put the damn thing in my chest pocket if I need to...yeah my suit is old and has one

guess I'll find out first day of practice!

[rybo]

As long as the bodywork retains the stock dimensions and size it would be legal.

If it's a superbike tail section (has foam glued on instead of using the stock seat) that would not be legal in SS.

Other than that, it would most likely be fine. just paint it the stock color and life is good!

[cromer611]

damn! that crushed my dreams of ever making bodywork out of duct tape : (

[rybo]

damn! that crushed my dreams of ever making bodywork out of duct tape : (

Erik,

I'm pretty sure this has already been done. Look around the pits, I'm sure you'll find some very cool duct tape composites. Be careful though, looks can be deceiving. There are some "faux duct tape" stickers out there that look JUST LIKE the real thing!

s

[racedk6]

Speaking of claiming, Grubbs are you going to run zoot wheels in Supersport? Cuz I was thinking I wouldn't buy new ones if yours are available for claiming. 8)

Nope got my stock wheels for super sport :twisted:

[NossLou]

As long as the bodywork retains the stock dimensions and size it would be legal.

If it's a superbike tail section (has foam glued on instead of using the stock seat) that would not be legal in SS.

Other than that, it would most likely be fine. just paint it the stock color and life is good!

It is not legal for Super Sport though...correct? I guess I can give Bart a call today and ask him. its the same size dimensions everywhere and utilizes the stock seat...looks just like my sharkskinz bodywork just made out of CF...that is all.

Quick question.... is traction control legal in SS?

[dragos13]

No carbon fiber bodywork for Supersport.

I'll double check on the traction control...

[dragos13]

I would have to say no to the traction control.

The rulebook states you CAN replace wire harness and ECU (kit ECU), alter ignition timing and add quick shifter, however it doesn't state anywhere that a traction control unit can be added.

[oldtimer]

I would have to say no to the traction control.

The rulebook states you CAN replace wire harness and ECU (kit ECU), alter ignition timing and add quick shifter, however it doesn't state anywhere that a traction control unit can be added.

doh!

[Ray-Ray]

I would have to say no to the traction control.

The rulebook states you CAN replace wire harness and ECU (kit ECU), alter ignition timing and add quick shifter, however it doesn't state anywhere that a traction control unit can be added.

Casey,

I allowed it the last 2 years. The traction control is just an extension of the ECU just like the power commander and quick shifter.

[dragos13]

CORRECTION:

Traction control that is considered an add-on to the ECU would be allowed. Units that require additonal front and rear sensors would NOT be allowed.

[Bartman]

Sorry I didn't chime in sooner, spring is here and I am swamped, anyway a couple of clarifications.
Scotty the superbike tail sections are legal for supersport as most do maintain the stock profile but do it with fiberglass and foam instead of a seat.
Traction control is defined as needing wheel sensors to determine wheel spin. Bazzaz and others don't use wheel sensors and so are antispin not proper traction control and therefore legal.
Carbon anything is legal except in supersport. So go nut with the CF if you have the funds.
Bartman

[racedk6]

I would have to say no to the traction control.

The rulebook states you CAN replace wire harness and ECU (kit ECU), alter ignition timing and add quick shifter, however it doesn't state anywhere that a traction control unit can be added.

doh!

Hahaha I have a feeling that was towards me

[oldtimer]

Hahaha I have a feeling that was towards me

Thank goodness Grubbs!! :lol: