Hi-Jacked thread - now about spec racing little goats...

[davy4575]

Kamper, Good to hear ya, hope to see you at ppir.
Id gladly race a spec class, as im on limited income for racing like all of us. Just the luck of the draw that I got into a track bike for so cheap, but then again its 13 years old, and was a gamble, I could have bought a 500 dollar pile of parts.
KTM would probably be pretty keen on the idea of getting their product out there as they are trying to make inroads to this discipline. I would think anyway. After having owned a KTM dirtbike (200EXC), I doubt Id be inclined to go back to other brands (and ive onwned most of them at one point or another) the bike was that good. truely impressive machines. Most katoom riders seem to share that same thought.

[Louden]

Hey Davy I'm working the night before PPIR, but I'll just sleep through the riders meeting. JK. I'll be there so call me if you want to meet up. Well guys I would love to call up KTM or another manufacturer and just ask about starting a spec class with them, But lets get real, I'm a first year super street racer with no credit and I'm not exactly backed by a large number of riders bedside Dave. There is only one way anyone of us could start convincing KTM to consider a spec class with us. We would have to conduct some research which provided a solid number of riders who would consider such an idea as well as prove to KTM we could make them the new ninja 250 if they gave us the chance. So if your serious about a manufactured spec class with KTM now is the time to reply. If enough people reply maybe I could use my down time at the races to inform current racers and possibly new racers of the idea and continue to build the survey. I'm willing to put the effort forth to make this happen if the MRA is willing to start something new. I believe Ayn Rand would place this question before us: "Ask yourself whether the dream of heaven and greatness should be waiting for us in our graves - or whether it should be ours here and now and on this earth."

[Desmodromico]

I like the discussion going on, and while that KTM looks like sex, I agree a 125 4 stroke is not going to cut it at altitude, or even at sea level for that matter, especially considering these are not going to be $2000 bikes. Basically anyone over 140 pounds could take a pass with that one, it seems more geared to young racers just starting out. All us fat arses would be left out in the cold...

I would think to get a manufacturer on board we would need to work together with a couple other clubs so there would be a bigger crop of potential racers. It is all about visibility for them, and while we are lucky to have such a great organization to race in, the MRA doesn't extend very far out of Colorado. Maybe if we got USBA, CMRA, and CCS together we could have enough power for some buy-in?

[dragos13]

I really hope we see some rule change suggestions in regards to a new spec class....

[dave.gallant]

I really hope some entrepreneur strikes up a deal with Rocky Mountain Kawasaki (or the like) to purchase 10 Ninja 250s, then rents them out to riders in the 2010 season. That is how the business would get done.

[rforsythe]

I really hope some entrepreneur strikes up a deal with Rocky Mountain Kawasaki (or the like) to purchase 10 Ninja 250s, then rents them out to riders in the 2010 season. That is how the business would get done.

Has someone put serious race-pace laps on one to see how it handles at altitude on the track? I know they race the piss out of them at sea level, but I also took my street 250 out to VIR and the difference was substantial. Granted mine is the older model (not the newer engine with actual midrange), but still the comparison matters. I have not put mine on a track yet, but could I guess. Comparing to a new one would be useful however.

Or put another way, will someone running a bit slower in the turns still have enough motor to have a good time? I'd like to see the results of an experiment like that, since I think that's been a big question preventing this idea from taking off for the multiple years it's been proposed. SV650's make great bikes here because they still have the power to go. Not sure on the 250's - not saying it won't on a track, I just truly don't know.

[dave.gallant]

Lets not bring reason or facts into these discussions....

[gsnyder828]

How much hp do those Kawi 250s make?

[dave.gallant]

How much hp do those Kawi 250s make?

Very little.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lam_T3bDcBk

[gsnyder828]

Our IT department is on to me... I'm blocked from Youtube @ work. 8)

Can you just give me a #?

[dave.gallant]

Our IT department is on to me... I'm blocked from Youtube @ work. 8)

Can you just give me a #?

42!


(but that is not how much horsepower they make)

[dave.gallant]

( 25-27ish with the latest 2008+ generation making a bit more)

[rforsythe]

Lets not bring reason or facts into these discussions....

Sorry, I forgot the audience here for a second. ops:

[OUTLAWD]

( 25-27ish with the latest 2008+ generation making a bit more)

I was under the impression the newer ones were a bit less because they don't spin them as high...

an early 2000's with a full exhaust put down 29 at OTD last year...my roommate had an 08 and the altitude effected it a ton compared to what it felt like in NJ

[dave.gallant]

( 25-27ish with the latest 2008+ generation making a bit more)

I was under the impression the newer ones were a bit less because they don't spin them as high...

an early 2000's with a full exhaust put down 29 at OTD last year...my roommate had an 08 and the altitude effected it a ton compared to what it felt like in NJ

Lots of threads on the WERA Board about this. Long story short; the old ones can't keep up with the new ones in race settings.

[gsnyder828]

( 25-27ish with the latest 2008+ generation making a bit more)

42 sounded better

[T Baggins]

Can you just give me a #?

How 'bout 1-800-BUY-VANMAR

That should be a good number for ya... :shock: :lol:

[gsnyder828]

Can you just give me a #?

How 'bout 1-800-BUY-VANMAR

That should be a good number for ya... :shock: :lol:

:shock: I take it you've dialed that # a time or 2!!! (\00\)

"$1.99-$4.99 per minute..." they wouldn't let me bill it to Tbag - said your account was overdrawn!

:lol: ops:

[dave.gallant]

Great! Lets turn this thread into another damn commercial like all the rest!

[gsnyder828]

Great! Lets turn this thread into another damn commercial like all the rest!

:lol: :lol: I was thinking about all the Vanmar threads that turned into Dunlop infomercials... then I got curious and called the #.

Now IT has me on another list... #-o ](*,)

[T Baggins]

Great! Lets turn this thread into another damn commercial like all the rest!

Davey G - you've obviously never called that number... but methinks maybe you should.

No Michelins available there, that much I guarantee! :lol:

[dave.gallant]

No Michelins available there, that much I guarantee! :lol:

Will I find a Happy Ending there???

[T Baggins]

No Michelins available there, that much I guarantee! :lol:

Will I find a Happy Ending there???

Yes, but you have to provide your own ketchup.

[dave.gallant]

No Michelins available there, that much I guarantee! :lol:

Will I find a Happy Ending there???

Yes, but you have to provide your own ketchup.

Got 'er!

[dave.gallant]

back on topic.

watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG210GgSyT4