This is starting a new thread to discuss/debate the proposed rule changes, not propose new rules, as that discussion is closed.

Quote Originally Posted by Jim 'smooth' Brewer View Post
Something like this was suggested in 2013 ..

Redesignate
Heavyweight Supersport to be Middleweight Amateur Supersport
Heavyweight Superbike to be Middleweight Amateur Superbike
Remove Heavyweight Endurance


Specifically
2.2.3.A - Middleweight Supersport rules stay the same
2.2.3.B - section is removed
2.3.2.1 - Middleweight Superbike rules stay the same
2.3.2.2 - section is removed
2.7.A - remove "Heavyweight"
4.2.A - Amateur definition (RoR restriction) is applied to Middleweight Amateur Supersport and Middleweight Amateur Superbike classes.

Reasoning -

  • There hasn't been and are no "heavyweight only" bikes in the MRA (except for Cindy's) so the classes are duplicates of Middleweight.
  • There are enough entries in the heavyweight races to warrant keeping them
  • Designating these classes as "middleweight" is just acknowledging reality
  • Making them amateur classes will expand trophy and contingency opportunities


Historical discussion can be found at http://forums.mra-racing.org/showthr...cussion-thread
Jim, why you want to take away HWEND? I know there are no, or almost no HW bikes anymore, but given that our race day still generally gets done with all races completed, and that it runs with OPENEND, it doesn't add any time to the race day and just gives another opportunity for middleweights to 'race up' and do another endurance race, as well as add additional $$$ to weekend revenue for the MRA. Given the usual tightness of the MRA budget, I am not for removing any class altogether as it just removes revenue from the club. There are a lot more people now who are doing both MWEND and HWEND and I think a lot of people (me included) would be disappointed to see this class go away.

I also would like to see Supersport and Superbike stay expert only classes and not changed to amateur designation. I think a lot of experts race these classes partly because they are expert only and are typically some of the faster classes in the club and making them novice eligible would I think discourage participation by some experts. AMO and AMU exist for exactly this purpose and have historically served both racer designations quite well for a long time.

Quote Originally Posted by gary3000 View Post
Formula 40 Rule Change

From 2019 rule book (page 17):

8. Formula 40 GTU
-- Based on Race of the Rockies GTU class displacement and
configuration limits as per 2.4.1.6
-- Racer must be 40 years of age or older on the day of the event.
9. Formula 40 GTO
-- Unlimited displacement and origin.
-- Racer must be 40 years of age or older on the day of the event.


Proposed 2020 rule change:

8. Formula 40 GTU
-- Based on Race of the Rockies GTU class displacement and
configuration limits as per 2.4.1.6
-- Racer must be 40 years of age or older on the day of the event.
-- Racer in the top 5 of point standings in RORO or RORU is ineligible for the event.
9. Formula 40 GTO
-- Unlimited displacement and origin.
-- Racer must be 40 years of age or older on the day of the event.
-- Racer in the top 5 of point standings in RORO or RORU is ineligible for the event.



Rationale: Formula 40 was structured in the past to limit participation by racers competing in ROR. The reasoning is/was probably similar to the rules governing Amateur GTU and GTO.
I don't want to see this change for F40 and it has been discussed at length in previous years. If you race ROR and you want to race F40, so be it, let 'em race. I believe most of the other clubs nationally do not restrict who can enter their F40 classes, you just have to be old, that's it. It only makes the class faster and more competitive and makes everybody work harder for a podium, which to me is the whole point of racing. I've never liked the idea of 'dumbing' down a class just to slow it down so more people have an opportunity for a trophy. If F40 feels too fast for a racer, there are plenty of other classes to enter where the level of competition will not have ROR racers in it. Leave it as is.