2009 PR Ideas - Let's get it rolling

[T Baggins]

Starting a new topic here as the "old" PR forum has limited membership. Donna Turner (Rider Rep) will be managing the ideas and empowering you guys and gals to go out and get it done.

Just to be clear, please tell us what YOU can and want to do to help the club - not what you think everyone else should be doing...

I will contact the Goldwing Club in Denver to see if they're interested in 2 for 1 passes.

I will contact Uncle Nasty and Willie B at KBPI to see if I can entice them to say something about our event as the day draws closer. I know them both, but we're not drinking buddies or anything... A remote is probably out, but if they can at least talk it up that may help attendance.

I have already donated half of my compensation for being the VP for the remaining three rounds of the season - and will get nothing for the two cancelled rounds (even though my responsibilites as VP run year-round, I only get paid at each race weekend). That's a tad over $1750, just in case you were thinking of one-upping me. :wink:

So, let's hear from you! Whatcha you gonna to ensure MRA Madness runs wild on you??!!??

[auzzy]

I would like to raise the awareness of our club races in any way shape or form that i can help in southern Colorado. I can inform dealerships and individuals even if it means time away from my family. I will be willing to help in any way I can Tony/Donna -pencil me in and please use me and my connections in anyway you see fit.-Austin

[oldtimer]

Thank you for volunteering to be used in a productive way Austin.


I will donate $50 to the MRA to let Drake Dinero make Austin do whatever Drake wants at the riders meeting. 8)

[PremiumBlend]

I can get a stunt show put together, if you give me a time frame on a day that works best. Also, what the riders need to do to their bikes IF the show is to be performed on the highest visible spots at any track which may be the track itself.

[auzzy]

lmao! Drake was well on his way to losing yet another bet last weekend. I will save the consequences for another day. :shock:

[DOUBLE A]

Let's get the harley dudes involved, we could do a poker run, up to a casino, or something! Thoughts?

[T Baggins]

Let's get the harley dudes involved, we could do a poker run, up to a casino, or something! Thoughts?

We'd have to insure a poker run, which would be additional cost, which we can't swing. Better to have them come to the races. If you could coordinate something that "benefitted" the MRA but was not "run" by the MRA that would be different, but there's liability involved if you're the promoter.

[DOUBLE A]

lots of damn legal crap! How bout' if someone costco's a buncha burgers & dogs & water/soda, & we all pay $10 a plate(drink/dog/burger) which really costs like 1$-2$ from buying bulk, if we can get a close number of how much we need, everyone wins kina thing? Thoughts?

[PremiumBlend]

Let's get the harley dudes involved, we could do a poker run, up to a casino, or something! Thoughts?

We'd have to insure a poker run, which would be additional cost, which we can't swing. Better to have them come to the races. If you could coordinate something that "benefitted" the MRA but was not "run" by the MRA that would be different, but there's liability involved if you're the promoter.

Why would the MRA have to insure a poker run if it was just for fun and was organized OUTSIDE of the MRA, but the proceeds went to the MRA?

[DOUBLE A]

Let's raffle some stuff @ lunch? ........ RAY-RAY's finger??? :shock:

[Throttleroller277]

I kinda like the idea of someone on the CSC putting together a ride, meeting somewhere, and riding out to the track to watch some racing. Anyone ride on the street that is a CSC member that could give this a shot? 8)

[JimWilson29]

I kinda like the idea of someone on the CSC putting together a ride, meeting somewhere, and riding out to the track to watch some racing. Anyone ride on the street that is a CSC member that could give this a shot? 8)

I will talk to Grand Prix about possibly putting together a shop ride to the next race. Maybe some of the other shops can do the same.

[jplracing]

Jeff there are a bunch of people that would organize it

I will put up a listing now trying to get something together

[PremiumBlend]

I mentioned this in the other thread, but a Motorcycle Part Swap Meet. Shouldn't be hard to organize, come one... come all.... if you have motorcycle parts to sell bring it. Slot reservations are $20 (just a rough $$) which gives you a 10'x10' area (give or take) and you can cram as many parts in your little area as you want. I have a dozen parts I can bring to sell!!!

[Throttleroller277]

I mentioned this in the other thread, but a Motorcycle Part Swap Meet. Shouldn't be hard to organize, come one... come all.... if you have motorcycle parts to sell bring it. Slot reservations are $20 (just a rough $$) which gives you a 10'x10' area (give or take) and you can cram as many parts in your little area as you want. I have a dozen parts I can bring to sell!!!

If I understand you correctly....you're saying to have one space, have a couple people work the space, and have a bunch of people donate parts to sell, and all money earned from the parts sold goes to the MRA?

Plus we could hand out programs and such...

Am I seeing this correctly, Preemie?

If so, I like the idea. I know I have parts I could donate, and sure just like you and I, a lot of other people do too.

8)

[marty]

.... Preemie?




i had a feeling that was in the works

[marty]

the main reason i don't do harley poker runs here at my bar is the liability. most runs involve stopping at bars and having adult beverages. i haven't heard of anyone getting sued yet but it is a matter of time til one of the "stops" gets to pay for some drunk weekend warrior who hurts himself .

the csc guys seem to be more responsible. i bet a bunch of those guys could put together a group ride just to come out and spectate. iirc, they did a couple of those last year to pmp

[PremiumBlend]

I mentioned this in the other thread, but a Motorcycle Part Swap Meet. Shouldn't be hard to organize, come one... come all.... if you have motorcycle parts to sell bring it. Slot reservations are $20 (just a rough $$) which gives you a 10'x10' area (give or take) and you can cram as many parts in your little area as you want. I have a dozen parts I can bring to sell!!!

If I understand you correctly....you're saying to have one space, have a couple people work the space, and have a bunch of people donate parts to sell, and all money earned from the parts sold goes to the MRA?

Plus we could hand out programs and such...

Am I seeing this correctly, Preemie?

If so, I like the idea. I know I have parts I could donate, and sure just like you and I, a lot of other people do too.

8)

No... if that were the case I would say lets do a silent auction and just auction off a bunch of parts you don't want.

A "Swap Meet" is the same concept as a garage sale... except it's very specific, motorcycle parts. They do this up at Bandimere often, it's a great place to find cheap parts for your bike and hard to find parts sometimes.

I mean, if you want you can bring parts that you want to sell and then give that money to the club... but what I was thinking is you designate a large area for the Swap "Meeters". If you are there to sell, you have to pay $20 (again, just a ballpark) and that gives you a 10'x10' lot to sell your stuff. If you are simply just a buyer, you pay the normal gate fee and with that purchase you get full access to the Pits, Races and the Swap Meet as well as maybe say a Free soft drink.

Where the club makes their money is by those setting up tents to sell their merchandise, as well as the spectators who come to buy the parts. I found a couple of 2 chamber 3" Flowmasters for my Chevelle for $15 at Bandimere, they normally sold for $50ish a piece. I was in high school so I knew that was a score when I found them....well, hopefully there will be guys there selling stuff that they just don't want/need anymore and can give smokin' deals on it.

That's my idea.

Signed: "Preemie" LOL

[T Baggins]

Let's get the harley dudes involved, we could do a poker run, up to a casino, or something! Thoughts?

We'd have to insure a poker run, which would be additional cost, which we can't swing. Better to have them come to the races. If you could coordinate something that "benefitted" the MRA but was not "run" by the MRA that would be different, but there's liability involved if you're the promoter.

Why would the MRA have to insure a poker run if it was just for fun and was organized OUTSIDE of the MRA, but the proceeds went to the MRA?

If the MRA "promotes it" then we're compelled to insure it - it's part of our agreement with AMA. If someone ELSE puts it together, then we're off the hook from a liability standpoint.

[PremiumBlend]

Sounds like the CSC guys can rally the troops.

[nwatkins176]

the main reason i don't do harley poker runs here at my bar is the liability. most runs involve stopping at bars and having adult beverages. i haven't heard of anyone getting sued yet but it is a matter of time til one of the "stops" gets to pay for some drunk weekend warrior who hurts himself .

the csc guys seem to be more responsible. i bet a bunch of those guys could put together a group ride just to come out and spectate. iirc, they did a couple of those last year to pmp

What is the insurance liability if we were to give the street riders a parade lap for showing up, maybe right before the ROR or something? Could be used as a promotional item

[T Baggins]

I'll confirm that with AMA Neil.

[Wild Cheetah 612]

Preemie!
Let's see how much piss and vinegar you got, youngster!
You want to organize and run a swap meet?
I have some stuff in my garage I'd just donate for sale with the proceeds going to the MRA. Other racers could get family members to run their booth.
A stunt show at lunch sounds great! We're looking into liability and permission issues now. Let you know on that.

Double A!
You want to organize and run a raffle or maybe a silent auction?
I have a new street helmet to donate.
Don't know about the food thing. There's Mo's at the track and don't know if we should compete.

[PremiumBlend]

Preemie!
Let's see how much piss and vinegar you got, youngster!
You want to organize and run a swap meet?
I have some stuff in my garage I'd just donate for sale with the proceeds going to the MRA. Other racers could get family members to run their booth.
A stunt show at lunch sounds great! We're looking into liability and permission issues now. Let you know on that.

Double A!
You want to organize and run a raffle or maybe a silent auction?
I have a new street helmet to donate.
Don't know about the food thing. There's Mo's at the track and don't know if we should compete.

I just spoke with the owner of the stunt team, he is officially/unofficially penciled in for July 25th once the MRA confirms it. I figure any details can be hammered out tomorrow @ the Walnut Room in between pitchers of beer. :) The team carries their own insurance, and will do the show for FREE. All that they ask is if we do ANY sort of promotion work their logo is on it.

As for the swap meet, I don't know if I can rally it fast enough by then. That's only 2 weeks, I know a TON of people in the motorcycle world but that may be hard to swing in 2 weeks. Again, more details we can hammer out tomorrow @ the Walnut Room between more pitchers of beer. :)

[Throttleroller277]

I just spoke with the owner of the stunt team, he is officially/unofficially penciled in for July 25th once the MRA confirms it. I figure any details can be hammered out tomorrow @ the Walnut Room in between pitchers of beer. :) The team carries their own insurance, and will do the show for FREE. All that they ask is if we do ANY sort of promotion work their logo is on it.

As for the swap meet, I don't know if I can rally it fast enough by then. That's only 2 weeks, I know a TON of people in the motorcycle world but that may be hard to swing in 2 weeks. Again, more details we can hammer out tomorrow @ the Walnut Room between more pitchers of beer. :)

Nice work Preemie. :D

How many riders are on the Team? Just curious......

Maybe try to do a Swap meet for the HPR race weekend following this one? 8)

[nwatkins176]

If we can get the crowds up we can sell booth space to businesses as well. For example I work for University of Phoenix. University of Phoenix would love to come set up a booth at the race track and possibly pay maybe a hundred bucks for the ability to do so.

What I mean is once the crowds get large enough, we can invite vendors to come out and set up booths to push products or services for a fee. I don't know how this will affect rider sponsorship or anything.

Neil

[Jim 'smooth' Brewer]

There have been a gazillion attempts, successes and failures of PR for the MRA over the years. Here's a brief summary of what I've found.

1) Lots of people are willing to email/post ideas. Very VERY VERY few are willing to follow through with action.

2) If the PR action costs time or money, it's important to figure out a) what you want to accomplish, and b) who the target audience is. Do you want more spectators, more racers, more shops sponsoring, more manufacturers involved? Each goal is a different group of people with different interests and is going to need a different PR activity.

3) Whatever the action is we need a way to measure whether it's effective. If we do a 2-for-1 gate coupon, we need to count them and figure out where they came from (newspaper, MRA program, shops, Jim's bike night, etc.)

4) The most difficult part is getting people to commit to doing something and follow through with their committments. (same as #1). The MRA runs off 90% volunteer work, so if you have an idea *you* should implement it and do what you say.

My own preference is going after recruiting more racers and not working so hard on getting more spectators - mostly because of the 20:1 financial return.

[Wild Cheetah 612]

Nice Work, Preemie!
Still working on the permission stuff.
Would Brownie's suggestion for organizing the swap meet at the Aug 8-9 races fit a workable time frame for you?

Neil,
Good idea! If we can start with one or two and work from there, that would be great. Set it up if you can.

[nwatkins176]

I can work on that for first week in August. At least for my company. It would be good to have some attendance figures. Maybe people with the Bike shop hook ups can have them set up displays and charge em or something.

[Wild Cheetah 612]

There have been a gazillion attempts, successes and failures of PR for the MRA over the years. Here's a brief summary of what I've found.

1) Lots of people are willing to email/post ideas. Very VERY VERY few are willing to follow through with action.

2) If the PR action costs time or money, it's important to figure out a) what you want to accomplish, and b) who the target audience is. Do you want more spectators, more racers, more shops sponsoring, more manufacturers involved? Each goal is a different group of people with different interests and is going to need a different PR activity.

3) Whatever the action is we need a way to measure whether it's effective. If we do a 2-for-1 gate coupon, we need to count them and figure out where they came from (newspaper, MRA program, shops, Jim's bike night, etc.)

4) The most difficult part is getting people to commit to doing something and follow through with their committments. (same as #1). The MRA runs off 90% volunteer work, so if you have an idea *you* should implement it and do what you say.

My own preference is going after recruiting more racers and not working so hard on getting more spectators - mostly because of the 20:1 financial return.

Jim is exactly correct!
1) Follow through has been a huge challenge for the PR Committee. We had a few good things going last season, but then lost 90% involvement going into 2009.
2) Right now I feel like we should take what we can get as far as what we can/want to accomplish based on the talents and contacts of the individuals involved.
3)Any 2-for-1 gate coupons anyone delivers anywhere needs to be marked on the back with where they went.
4) Please come up with ideas that you are able to implement and run them through PR Central (me) so I can keep us organized and uphold the image the MRA strives to create and maintain.

I agree that we need to focus more on recruiting racers, yet getting the word out as far as possible through businesses and spectators will spur on the interest of more future racers. In our current financial situation, let's take what we can get. I'm hoping that we can create a new and motivated pool of members who are willing and dedicated to help continue the work we're starting now well into the future!

[PremiumBlend]

Is there 1 specific person dedicated to ONLY PR/Advertising and DOES NOT have any other duties with the club?

[Wild Cheetah 612]

That would be me. I have turned over my trophy duties to Jeff Brown and am now focusing solely on PR.

[PremiumBlend]

That would be me. I have turned over my trophy duties to Jeff Brown and am now focusing solely on PR.

Perfect, that was my concern that whoever took on the PR responsibilities was being overwhelmed with other duties and having to CHOOSE between the 2.

[PremiumBlend]

Nice work Preemie. :D

How many riders are on the Team? Just curious......

Maybe try to do a Swap meet for the HPR race weekend following this one? 8)

Should be 3, but if I saddle up it could be 4. \:D/

[SuperdubS]

if you want harley guys how about some help from lewis and floorwax at the fox,they used to have riders on when the nationals were at ppir

[Wild Cheetah 612]

Do you know Lewis and Floorwax and can set that up?

[TerriRomaneschi]

Jim I agree with most of what you have said here. Great points. And in any effort, I agree that most like to complain but don't follow through. A few have stepped up to the plate. If I can I will. Can I fix resumes to get you all jobs so you can race? Doubtful, but it's my world.

However, it's your last point I focused on. And your ratio is correct in terms of effort. As I outlined in another post, which I'm sure nobody read, it's a catch 22 in terms of reeling them in spectating, then Chicane track days, then people "supporting" them into this world of racing. But it has to be a consistent effort. Those Chicane track days are a breeding ground for safe, educated, future racers. I'm telling ya'll! And I really hope that is not dismissed by some for the future of this sport in CO.

It's how I was slowly lured in. Course I had a trackful of hotties (men and women) supporting me into the fear. And I'm sure so many others are the same. Although, many are different too I understand.

I am happy to help in any way I can. I'm just too new here to know how I can really contribute, aside from being there and asking for support for all of us.

It's a catch 22. I know that I'm new here guys, but logic makes me ask..why are these kinds of efforts only coming as a matter of urgency? Why not all year long. No business can take anything for granted these days. Complacency fails every time.

These efforts should be kept up year after year, month to month during the racing season. The PR works. I'll do anything I can on my end. Just ask and I'll do it.


There have been a gazillion attempts, successes and failures of PR for the MRA over the years. Here's a brief summary of what I've found.

1) Lots of people are willing to email/post ideas. Very VERY VERY few are willing to follow through with action.

2) If the PR action costs time or money, it's important to figure out a) what you want to accomplish, and b) who the target audience is. Do you want more spectators, more racers, more shops sponsoring, more manufacturers involved? Each goal is a different group of people with different interests and is going to need a different PR activity.

3) Whatever the action is we need a way to measure whether it's effective. If we do a 2-for-1 gate coupon, we need to count them and figure out where they came from (newspaper, MRA program, shops, Jim's bike night, etc.)

4) The most difficult part is getting people to commit to doing something and follow through with their committments. (same as #1). The MRA runs off 90% volunteer work, so if you have an idea *you* should implement it and do what you say.

My own preference is going after recruiting more racers and not working so hard on getting more spectators - mostly because of the 20:1 financial return.

[jmart]

I have another idea. My wife and I have thought about building a float for the upcoming Fiesta Day Parade here in Pueblo that coincides with the Colorado State Fair. As a spectator of this parade for many years, an MRA float would get noticed by thousands who flock to Pueblo for this traditional occasion. We would be more than happy to see this through and attempt to create an image that is receptive to all prospective members.

The parade is scheduled for Sunday, September 6th so this would not directly benefit the club this season, but hopefully generate enough interest and anticipation for next season.

Donna, what do you think? I can call the POC tomorrow for specifics and forward them to you.

Jessie
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[Jim 'smooth' Brewer]

As I outlined in another post, which I'm sure nobody read, it's a catch 22 in terms of reeling them in spectating, then Chicane track days, then people "supporting" them into this world of racing. But it has to be a consistent effort. Those Chicane track days are a breeding ground for safe, educated, future racers.
I read your other post and you make good points. It is really my belief that the vast majority of spectators & track riders who eventually become racers get involved though references from friends that already track ride or race. I believe (since I have no statistics) that very few people see and ad in a flyer, go out into their garage wire up their bike and show up at new riders' school.

I know there are exceptions (Adam L. - maybe?) but it seems to me the more we foster the social networking abilites of current racers, the more likely we are to recruit new racers - which is the main goal of the MRA's existence.

It's how I was slowly lured in. Course I had a trackful of hotties (men and women) supporting me into the fear. And I'm sure so many others are the same.
Exactly!


..why are these kinds of efforts only coming as a matter of urgency? Why not all year long. No business can take anything for granted these days. Complacency fails every time.
IMHO, the financial issues didn't come to the forefront until we had the low turnouts and losses from the last 4 rounds. Typically, we have pretty consistent entries through the summer, but this year we really lost participation. Maybe we (the board in general) should have predicted the losses better, but personally I'm not doing much better with my 401K. :?

[Snowman]

This is just off the top of my head…

It seems to me the target demographic you are looking for is those riders interested in becoming racers. One place to find them for sure is Chicane Days and HPR Lapping days. If you could get at these riders, you would have good candidates for new racers and at least event spectators.

The one asset the MRA has over these two events is the ability to generate lap times for their riders. The MRA (in cooperation with these originations) could show up and rent out transponders for something like $20.00 and in return provide a printed readout of the persons lap times. If a rider already has a transponder, charge them $5.00 for the service.

This would have two advantages. First, buy charging for the service it generates money to cover the cost of providing the service and possibility of a little more that can be used for PR.

Second, you would have direct access to your target demographic. You could do things like give away with each rental a free ticket to the next MRA race. Hand out literature describing what it would take to go from track days to the starting line of a real race. And so on…

I cannot think of any insurance liabilities off hand, because all you would be doing is providing an independent service to the track day itself. Like the food vendors would be.

Also considering that you guys are now selling transponders for cheap, with the right rental agreement, the potential of someone stealing them would be minimal. You just need them to give you their credit card number and if they walk away with ione, you would have the right to buy a new one.

[Vanmar Racing]

Vanmar Racing will donate $$MONEY$$ for printing costs towards 2 for 1 flyers and cards to promote the MRA to spectators.

Katie and her posse of girls will be handing out flyers for the MRA tonight at BIKE NIGHT at Bostons

[T Baggins]

DONNA - can you put someone on this? Sounds like a good opportunity, but we need some Peeps from the Springs / Pueblo to show up and hand out flyers, coupons, whatever... I'll get you Erik's contact info when you get a lead on this.

From Erik Peat - Racer...

Well, things have gone a little crazy huh? I don't have a way to write on the forum and I just can't make it to the meeting tomorrow-you dang Denver guys :) but I spoke with Donna a while back and wanted to mention this again. Apex Sports is having an open house on July 18th and we would love to have as many of the MRA show up as possible.

It seems over the past couple of years when I have requested things like this, nobody shows up. I think we all need to look at the fact that Colorado Springs has a lot of military guys with money and ego's who would love to come around and bench race. If we had even a few guys there to talk racing, where to come watch, and how to get licensed, I think it could make a difference. I literally talk to handfuls of guys every week about racing and I cannot tell you how many of them have already been to the races this year. I can tell you that on a normal race day I will have 10 to 15 customers come by and eat lunch at our pit, on top of the normal 5 to 10 guys that come down and hang out with me and my family. We typically take about $100 worth food to each race and it is mostly always gone by the end of the day. All of that just from talking to a few guys at work! Imagine what a display of race equipment and some guys willing to spend a few hours would draw.

Apex is a big shop and this open house literally brings hundreds of people in the doors on that day. I unfortunately have a job to do that will prevent me from being out there much but I will help out with all I can. Apex is being very generous by saying we can do this and I think it would be pretty huge for our club to give it a shot!

So, if you could mention it at the meeting for me, I would appreciate it. I will even buy everyone's lunch if they would just show up! I have always wanted to get more people involved from the Spring's area and we need some help from you Denver guys.

If you get a chance, give me a call. My cell is xxx-xxx-xxxx and I will give you some particulars.

Thanks Tony!! You guys all do a great job! My family and I will help in any way we can just let me know.

Erik Peat

[Vanmar Racing]

Just talked to Jim wilson and he is having 1000 MRA flyers printed today and some 2 for 1 coupons.

We should have them for tonights meeting and will give them to members to pass out.

Thanks to Joe Logalbo for helping pay for these!

[Jim 'smooth' Brewer]

... will give them to members to pass out.
I'm willing to pass out as well .. and I'm sure Brownie will, too.

[T Baggins]

Donna - Fernando Arroyos has contacts at "The Wright Group - Event Services"

If that would be of benefit, please contact Fernando.

[PremiumBlend]

Just talked to Jim wilson and he is having 1000 MRA flyers printed today and some 2 for 1 coupons.

We should have them for tonights meeting and will give them to members to pass out.

Thanks to Joe Logalbo for helping pay for these!

Tammy, hold the phone if you can on the printing... if the stunt show is a go can we add their logo to the flyer for the 25th?

[T Baggins]

Just talked to Jim wilson and he is having 1000 MRA flyers printed today and some 2 for 1 coupons.

We should have them for tonights meeting and will give them to members to pass out.

Thanks to Joe Logalbo for helping pay for these!

Tammy, hold the phone if you can on the printing... if the stunt show is a go can we add their logo to the flyer for the 25th?

There will be another flyer printed for the 22nd Bike Night which will be SPECIFIC to that weekend and the festivities. We're running out of time and tonight is the best time to get flyers in the hands of our members.

Preemie - I need you to call me about the stunt thing please 303-333-4411 x311

[Throttleroller277]

... will give them to members to pass out.
I'm willing to pass out as well .. and I'm sure Brownie will, too.

I'd be glad to pass them out. 8)

[auzzy]

I have started organizing a "ride" from Pueblo to HPR on the 26th. Started making flyers to hand out and spread the word. I will also contact Kilo94.3 today and see what else i can come up with. :idea:

[Wild Cheetah 612]

I have another idea. My wife and I have thought about building a float for the upcoming Fiesta Day Parade here in Pueblo that coincides with the Colorado State Fair. As a spectator of this parade for many years, an MRA float would get noticed by thousands who flock to Pueblo for this traditional occasion. We would be more than happy to see this through and attempt to create an image that is receptive to all prospective members.

The parade is scheduled for Sunday, September 6th so this would not directly benefit the club this season, but hopefully generate enough interest and anticipation for next season.

Donna, what do you think? I can call the POC tomorrow for specifics and forward them to you.

Jessie
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I would be for that as long as it doesn't cost the MRA anything. We just don't have the money. I'm sure the board would like to see and approve a design before it went into production just to make sure it upholds the image the MRA is trying to create and maintain. Great idea!

[Wild Cheetah 612]

The one asset the MRA has over these two events is the ability to generate lap times for their riders. The MRA (in cooperation with these originations) could show up and rent out transponders for something like $20.00 and in return provide a printed readout of the persons lap times. If a rider already has a transponder, charge them $5.00 for the service.

This is a great idea, but the transponder system is an extremely expensive and fragile piece of equipment. That would be a huge commitment to ask of our Transponder King who takes care of this equipment and already shows up to every race.

How about instead, racers who are at these days can take a street guy under his wing and loan him his lap timer? That would be a more personal approach and spreads out the responsibility to more of us.

[Wild Cheetah 612]

I know that I'm new here guys, but logic makes me ask..why are these kinds of efforts only coming as a matter of urgency? Why not all year long. No business can take anything for granted these days. Complacency fails every time.

When I tried to rally the troops to continue and expand upon our PR efforts from last year I got a bunch of "no can dos" and a couple of "I can help deliver stuff." That left me. And at the time I was also trying to get all the trophy sponsors together for the season. I'm a good organizer but need the many talents of the members of the club to make it happen! This includes people who have media and printing contacts, design skills, time to help deliver stuff and go to Meet and Greets, and most importantly, dedication to follow through.

[Snowman]

Believe me that doesn’t happen. I have asked around several times and ended up buying my own. If the service was offered I know you would have a market for it.

[Wild Cheetah 612]

I have started organizing a "ride" from Pueblo to HPR on the 26th. Started making flyers to hand out and spread the word. I will also contact Kilo94.3 today and see what else i can come up with. :idea:
Way to go, Austin!
Please remember that the MRA cannot be the promoter of this event for liability issues. Good Luck with Kilo! Keep us posted.

[Wild Cheetah 612]

Believe me that doesn’t happen. I have asked around several times and ended up buying my own. If the service was offered I know you would have a market for it.

I certainly believe you and maybe because of this post and our current situation, guys will step up. But if our transponder system were to get damaged and cost likely in the thousands to repair, then we've created a worse situation.

[T Baggins]

Hey JJB,

Just a reminder that we WILL be doing a mailing to all our racers - including those who are licensed and have not yet come out to race this year - which should help in the 200 vs 10 issue.

It will be far "easier" to recruit new spectators vs. new racers at this point in the season - which I think is why so much effort is being put towards that. Few if any will "convert" to racers this season, but may plant the seed for next year.

I don't know how someone with no racebike or race school cert in their posession would make it on the track yet this year... not impossible, but improbable for sure.

[racedk6]

DONNA - can you put someone on this? Sounds like a good opportunity, but we need some Peeps from the Springs / Pueblo to show up and hand out flyers, coupons, whatever... I'll get you Erik's contact info when you get a lead on this.

From Erik Peat - Racer...

Well, things have gone a little crazy huh? I don't have a way to write on the forum and I just can't make it to the meeting tomorrow-you dang Denver guys :) but I spoke with Donna a while back and wanted to mention this again. Apex Sports is having an open house on July 18th and we would love to have as many of the MRA show up as possible.

It seems over the past couple of years when I have requested things like this, nobody shows up. I think we all need to look at the fact that Colorado Springs has a lot of military guys with money and ego's who would love to come around and bench race. If we had even a few guys there to talk racing, where to come watch, and how to get licensed, I think it could make a difference. I literally talk to handfuls of guys every week about racing and I cannot tell you how many of them have already been to the races this year. I can tell you that on a normal race day I will have 10 to 15 customers come by and eat lunch at our pit, on top of the normal 5 to 10 guys that come down and hang out with me and my family. We typically take about $100 worth food to each race and it is mostly always gone by the end of the day. All of that just from talking to a few guys at work! Imagine what a display of race equipment and some guys willing to spend a few hours would draw.

Apex is a big shop and this open house literally brings hundreds of people in the doors on that day. I unfortunately have a job to do that will prevent me from being out there much but I will help out with all I can. Apex is being very generous by saying we can do this and I think it would be pretty huge for our club to give it a shot!

So, if you could mention it at the meeting for me, I would appreciate it. I will even buy everyone's lunch if they would just show up! I have always wanted to get more people involved from the Spring's area and we need some help from you Denver guys.

If you get a chance, give me a call. My cell is xxx-xxx-xxxx and I will give you some particulars.

Thanks Tony!! You guys all do a great job! My family and I will help in any way we can just let me know.

Erik Peat


Tony if you could let Erik Know that I am willing to go down there with MRA flyers and programs and my race bike for his open house!

If you could PM Me his number so I can get some info I will get on it.

[PremiumBlend]

Is there 1 bike night coming up that ISN'T a Wed that the MRA can do a big blow out? I mean, bring your trailers, bring your bikes, setup a booth/small table with the MRA banner, maybe a small video playing with highlights from a relatively recent season @ the booth. I'm talking take over the parking lot and have a line of race bikes setup. Give it a "pits"-eque feel....

[JimWilson29]

Is there 1 bike night coming up that ISN'T a Wed that the MRA can do a big blow out? I mean, bring your trailers, bring your bikes, setup a booth/small table with the MRA banner, maybe a small video playing with highlights from a relatively recent season @ the booth. I'm talking take over the parking lot and have a line of race bikes setup. Give it a "pits"-eque feel....

It is already in the works. More info to come.

[Wild Cheetah 612]

Tony if you could let Erik Know that I am willing to go down there with MRA flyers and programs and my race bike for his open house!

If you could PM Me his number so I can get some info I will get on it.

I'm organizing all the volunteer stuff on the "What We Need" post http://forums.mra-racing.org/viewtopic.php?t=8984
Please, everyone, post up there your ability to help out on the various ventures and events!

Also, if you have something in works or would like to do, pleased post up on the "In the Works" post http://forums.mra-racing.org/viewtopic.php?t=8982
That'll help us to stay organized and better round up volunteers.

Thanks!

[PremiumBlend]

Is there 1 bike night coming up that ISN'T a Wed that the MRA can do a big blow out? I mean, bring your trailers, bring your bikes, setup a booth/small table with the MRA banner, maybe a small video playing with highlights from a relatively recent season @ the booth. I'm talking take over the parking lot and have a line of race bikes setup. Give it a "pits"-eque feel....

It is already in the works. More info to come.

Let me know, b/c every Wed night @ the Hamburger Stand by my house there is a good size classic car show. There is also a tuner car show @ the Sonic near my house on Sunday nights. I would personally go for the Sunday night Tuner Night @ Sonic, young kids with money to blow and usually bikes show up. If you can't find a venue Ugly let me know, we can definitely get something rolling in my neck of the woods.

[Scored51]

Believe me that doesn’t happen. I have asked around several times and ended up buying my own. If the service was offered I know you would have a market for it.

I certainly believe you and maybe because of this post and our current situation, guys will step up. But if our transponder system were to get damaged and cost likely in the thousands to repair, then we've created a worse situation.

I am, of course, under the direction of the board but I agree the liability to the equipment is greater than revenues generated by renting them at $20. If only one is lost, broken, or taken and irretrievable, all of the rental funds generated from the event won't amount to 1/3 of the cost of replacing the one.

It has also been my experience over nearly the past four years that regardless of how many transponders are rented out, it has been far less than 10% of the time that all of the transponders have been returned on time. That means a greater than 90% chance of breakage or having to track someone down after any given event.

[JimWilson29]

It is already in the works. More info to come.

Let me know, b/c every Wed night @ the Hamburger Stand by my house there is a good size classic car show. There is also a tuner car show @ the Sonic near my house on Sunday nights. I would personally go for the Sunday night Tuner Night @ Sonic, young kids with money to blow and usually bikes show up. If you can't find a venue Ugly let me know, we can definitely get something rolling in my neck of the woods.

It's already been rolling for awhile.... 8)

http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn373/UglyDogRacing/BikeNight/Photo0072.jpg

[Vanmar Racing]

Last Night I posted up the new MRA Flyer on
the Vanmar Racing Facebook
the MRA Facebook
the Tammy Facebook
and two places on Craigslist

I also sent it to a bunch of people to put on their websites.

If anybody else wants it please drop me a line at
vanmarracing@ mindspring.com
and I will send it to you.

[Sprtbkbabe]

I've got the posters posted all over work (lots of bikers here) and have asked the British Motorcycling club that my dad is a part of, to distribute Tammy's pdf file throughout their e-mail lists.

[terid]

Flyers are up at Colorado Powersports, Victory (on 104th) and at TFOG. I left them info on pointing people to the web site to print out more 2fers.
Teri

[Snowman]

Invited everyone on my list this side of the pond, to the event on Facebook.
Can they print out the 2 for 1 coupons there?

[Moto-Mania]

My 2 cents....

1. MRA Presence at Commercial Race Schools
I've been to 3 Pridmore STAR schools in Colorado over the years and never was "MRA" mentioned.
From a student's perspective, it would have been beneficial to have an MRA
representative give a 15 - 20 minute presentation on "going to the next level", what it's all about, how to get started, when and where the races are, etc.
I'm pretty sure Jason P. would approve carving out 15 minutes over lunch, etc. for this purpose.
I know Ricky O promotes the MRA at his schools, but what about the others, GO4IT, etc.?
Same principle, different time line for ABATE and the other learner schools and safety classes.

2. Spectator Hospitality Booth
It seems to me that when spectators do show up at races, we kind of ignore them.
Most of them probably have little idea what's going on, who the top racers are, what's being contested, etc.
A booth staffed with friendly, “customer facing”, knowledgeable people, complete with refreshments, MRA t-shirts and paraphernalia (for sale, of course)
would go a long way toward forming a bond between spectators and the MRA, motivating people to come back, and helping to promote the MRA in general.

As for me, I will be at the APEX open house with both my race bikes on July 18.
However, FYI, I won’t be on the grid for the rest of the season due to emergency stomach surgery performed July 3.

[DOUBLE A]

I am running out of flyers, I have put them up around lowe's home depo's chipotle's, etc., streetbikers handlebars, reunion dia area corkboards @ gas stations, my job, but I need more....is there any more? I need some for 303CYCLE, & SUPERTUNE!!!

[JimWilson29]

I am running out of flyers, I have put them up around lowe's home depo's chipotle's, etc., streetbikers handlebars, reunion dia area corkboards @ gas stations, my job, but I need more....is there any more? I need some for 303CYCLE, & SUPERTUNE!!!

Members paid for the first batch of flyers. I can provide the higher resolution version for printing if you want to print some off yourself. I would also suggest not plastering the entire city with them. I dont how much impact putting them in home depots and lowes is going to help. They need to be present in every bike shop in the front range and also bars/restaurants or other establishments where riders frequent. Nothing wrong with attracting some spectators that are completely foreign to motorcycles, but as has been indicited previously spectators are going to have minimal impact on revenue so I believe the longer term goal here is increase awareness of the MRA and try to attract new racers by first getting them out to the track.

[DOUBLE A]

right! anything helps though, I think no matter what, it's about the cheapest family event in denver period! mini golf, go carts, comedy club, it's all more that attending an MRa race, so if we did get 400-500 people that regularly attended no harm ...... NEW FANS / NEW BLOOD / introduce more newbs to motorcycling period, plus alot is already being done, I havent dented what most of everyone else are getting done, from the meeting, NICE JOB GUYS!

[PremiumBlend]

Who does our web stuff? We need something added to these forums

[Wild Cheetah 612]

Who does our web stuff? We need something added to these forums
Dave Gallant.
Thanks for the idea, Shaun! I've posted your idea in the board only area.

[Vanmar Racing]

I already sent the High Res to Jim Brewer and Tony to give to Dave Gallant. Do you know if that happened?
We talked at the meeting about adding a click and print to the MRA webpage.

[Jim 'smooth' Brewer]

I already sent the High Res to Jim Brewer and Tony to give to Dave Gallant. Do you know if that happened?

sent just now .. I had some email outbox constipation

[PrillerGrrl]

When I've raced in other series', over the course race week, there would be stunter shows, pit tours, raffles, ballons for kids, etc... but the big difference was attendance. Attendance was anywhere from 3000-12,000. The race weeks were really geared for spectators with alot going on for them in terms of entertainment for both the big and little people beyond just watching the racing. The MRA has had like 140+ racers out which is great but we don't seem to get alot of people out to watch.

I'm a Canuck, but in comparison to back home, my perception is that folks south of the border like to race just about anything and there even a dedicated television channel for motorsports so is there a reason that peeps aren't coming out to watch? Are people outside of the MRA and riders aware of the series?

I know we cram alot of different classes over the course of a weekend. Would it be an idea to maybe cut a few of the classes, or extend the day in some way so that there could be other kinds of entertainment for spectators?

Anyhoo.. I know that the thrust of the thread is what can we do individually to help out. I'm back in school, I'd be happy to plaster posters around campus.

The other thing that was done back home was that they did up a calendar with the women racers. They always sold out really fast. They were sold trackside and at the local motorcycle shops. I'm not sure anyone would want to look at my sillyness, but airbrushing helps alot. :-) .. So in the vain of getting people to come out and to make some money, I'd be willing to do that again.

I know this has already been done by some folks but maybe we could do more pub/racer days... but another thought was to maybe focus on more family-oriented venues like.. I dunno.. Gunther Tooties or Elitches to get more kids and families coming out... Maybe something like this won't be enough for this season, but we could certainly get momentum building now for next season.

Katie
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[Wild Cheetah 612]

When I've raced in other series', over the course race week, there would be stunter shows, pit tours, raffles, ballons for kids, etc... but the big difference was attendance. Attendance was anywhere from 3000-12,000. The race weeks were really geared for spectators with alot going on for them in terms of entertainment for both the big and little people beyond just watching the racing. The MRA has had like 140+ racers out which is great but we don't seem to get alot of people out to watch.

I'm a Canuck, but in comparison to back home, my perception is that folks south of the border like to race just about anything and there even a dedicated television channel for motorsports so is there a reason that peeps aren't coming out to watch? Are people outside of the MRA and riders aware of the series?

I know we cram alot of different classes over the course of a weekend. Would it be an idea to maybe cut a few of the classes, or extend the day in some way so that there could be other kinds of entertainment for spectators?

Anyhoo.. I know that the thrust of the thread is what can we do individually to help out. I'm back in school, I'd be happy to plaster posters around campus.

The other thing that was done back home was that they did up a calendar with the women racers. They always sold out really fast. They were sold trackside and at the local motorcycle shops. I'm not sure anyone would want to look at my sillyness, but airbrushing helps alot. :-) .. So in the vain of getting people to come out and to make some money, I'd be willing to do that again.

I know this has already been done by some folks but maybe we could do more pub/racer days... but another thought was to maybe focus on more family-oriented venues like.. I dunno.. Gunther Tooties or Elitches to get more kids and families coming out... Maybe something like this won't be enough for this season, but we could certainly get momentum building now for next season.

Katie
188

Heck, I'd pose in a bikini with my racebike for a calendar (anyone good with Photoshop?)

Great ideas! We need the resources (either free or REALY cheap) to get these things done. Volunteers?

[PrillerGrrl]

[quote=PrillerGrrl]

Heck, I'd pose in a bikini with my racebike for a calendar (anyone good with Photoshop?)

Great ideas! We need the resources (either free or REALY cheap) to get these things done. Volunteers?

I have a close friend whom is a serious amateur photographer. His work could easily be sold in a gallery and he's a master at photoshop. He's got all the fancy lights too. I'll ask him to see if he's up for doing glamor shots for a calendar.

My hairdressor and I are pretty close - I'll ask her if she would be willing to do hair, etc for credit on the calendar and I'm sure she would know some peeps that do makeup.

Keep you posted.

Katie
188

[Wild Cheetah 612]

GREAT!!
How about resources to actually make and print the calendar?

[DOUBLE A]

I'll get SKEEZBOX 969 to pose for your calender in a bikini.. :P

[racedk6]

I'll get SKEEZBOX 969 to pose for your calender in a bikini.. :P

Sad part is Nik would do it :shock:

[NossLou]

I'll get SKEEZBOX 969 to pose for your calender in a bikini.. :P

Sad part is Nik would do it :shock:

Oh hell yeah :shock:

[auzzy]

Does my wife need to supply the thong for him as well? :shock:

[NossLou]

Does my wife need to supply the thong for him as well? :shock:
:D
Nope I have a few sitting around from personal mishaps with women.....thats right....WOMEN, not dudes, so I should be set. Have this black one from a blonde that should be perfect! :shock:

[Wild Cheetah 612]

Okay, guys, back to business, please.

I know, I'm no fun

[CO750]

This won't help this year, but could help for next year. On Sept. 12th we are doing a car and motorcycle show to benefit the Children's Miracle Network. All money raised will benefit the local affiliate, which is the Childrens Hospital in Denver.
I usually enter my race bike, when it is looking decent, just to support the charity and increase awareness. This year we are allowing businesses to sponsor the event in exchange for advertising and a booth space to sell or promote their services.

I will donate the $100 for the MRA which will get the logo on the event t-shirts and fliers. If a few folks would like to come and set up a canopy and pass out some info, maybe have some pictures to show off, and talk racing with some people. If there is a banner with the MRA logo on it we can hang that as well.
Then if anyone would like to enter there race bike in the event, we could set up a mock pit row if enough racers brought there bikes. Entry fees are $20 and I would be willing to cover those if it would get some more bikes out.

This would be a great opportunity to build some interest for people to try out racing next year or at least come to a few races to watch. There is a large number of what I would classify as "casual riders" around here that could be targeted to become more involved.
I just need to know if someone is willing to set up and man a canopy and bring some pictures and info. If somebody can commit to doing that, I will pay the donation and get all the info submitted.

[ctb]

[quote=PrillerGrrl]When I've raced in other series', over the course race week, there would be stunter shows, pit tours, raffles, ballons for kids, etc... but the big difference was attendance. Attendance was anywhere from 3000-12,000. The race weeks were really geared for spectators with alot going on for them in terms of entertainment for both the big and little people beyond just watching the racing. The MRA has had like 140+ racers out which is great but we don't seem to get alot of people out to watch.

I'm a Canuck, but in comparison to back home, my perception is that folks south of the border like to race just about anything and there even a dedicated television channel for motorsports so is there a reason that peeps aren't coming out to watch? Are people outside of the MRA and riders aware of the series?

I know we cram alot of different classes over the course of a weekend. Would it be an idea to maybe cut a few of the classes, or extend the day in some way so that there could be other kinds of entertainment for spectators?

Anyhoo.. I know that the thrust of the thread is what can we do individually to help out. I'm back in school, I'd be happy to plaster posters around campus.

The other thing that was done back home was that they did up a calendar with the women racers. They always sold out really fast. ...

Heck, I'd pose in a bikini with my racebike for a calendar (anyone good with Photoshop?)

Great ideas! We need the resources (either free or REALY cheap) to get these things done. Volunteers?

I am in with SIX MONTHS NOTICE...Seriously. You give us a heads up for some gym time, and you could have a good photo shoot ;)