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glenngsxr
January 23rd, 2008, 01:44 PM
After all my brake problems last year, I am in need of a Brembo master cylinder and lever. Anyone have on that will fit my bike? glenn #62

marty
January 23rd, 2008, 02:02 PM
if you can't find one used try TAW, they give locals a deal
303 456 5544

bluedevil
January 23rd, 2008, 02:55 PM
Good thing is they are universal.... Just decide if you want 19X18 or 19X20 and go for it...

Ray-Ray
January 23rd, 2008, 04:39 PM
I may have a 19x20 I'd sell you! $200

Throttleroller277
January 23rd, 2008, 05:19 PM
Ray,
With lever??
8)

Ray-Ray
January 23rd, 2008, 05:23 PM
No I figure I would sell it without the lever......


haha!! Yes, it's a 19x20 with the straight black lever.. Excellent shape!

Clarkie
January 23rd, 2008, 06:58 PM
Ray,
With lever??
8)

You know they made Brembo Masters illegal for SS over in Utah right?

dave.gallant
January 23rd, 2008, 07:45 PM
Ray,
With lever??
8)

You know they made Brembo Masters illegal for SS over in Utah right?

Huh?

They got rid of that rule last year (at the last minute).

Did they pull it back in for 2008??

Clarkie
January 23rd, 2008, 08:02 PM
yup, it's in, it's out, it's in, it's out :lol:

glenngsxr
January 23rd, 2008, 08:44 PM
Can someone explain what the differences are in the 19x18 and the 19x20? Glenn #62

Clarkie
January 23rd, 2008, 09:43 PM
19x18 is actually a common OEM size, 19x20 is bigger and more powerful

motobum
January 23rd, 2008, 10:35 PM
i guess it means...

19mm of stroke and 20mm of bore... which mean that it pushes more fluid per mm then a 19mm bore.

i guess the 20mm has less feel as it take less travel to push the same amount of fluid, but for bite...

bluedevil
January 24th, 2008, 06:16 AM
19X18 levers are easier to get however... I have a 19X20 and Ive had a hard time getting a lever for less than 60+ bucks... Ive been using 19X18 levers which work but are slightly different.

Clarkie
January 24th, 2008, 07:52 AM
19X18 levers are easier to get however... I have a 19X20 and Ive had a hard time getting a lever for less than 60+ bucks... Ive been using 19X18 levers which work but are slightly different.

Be careful doing that, the lever will bind up because you are trying to push the pin around an arc, not directly into the mastercylinder. Dale had brake problems because of this, it aint pretty when it happens :wink:

nobasin
January 24th, 2008, 08:30 AM
i guess the 20mm has less feel as it take less travel to push the same amount of fluid, but for bite...

nobasin
January 24th, 2008, 08:33 AM
i guess the 20mm has less feel as it take less travel to push the same amount of fluid, but for bite...

i was told that the 19x20 is best for 6 piston calipers and liter bikes, and the 19x18 was typically for 4 piston calipers.

i have a 19x18 and both bite and feel/control are unreal. i can't imagine wanting more as it seems like it would be too much. (running stock 4 piston calipers on an f4i with vesrah rjl's)

and for what it's worth (certainly nothing to me as slow as i am), rossi and hayden both use a billet 19x18.

nobasin
January 24th, 2008, 08:51 AM
i guess it means...
19mm of stroke and 20mm of bore... which mean that it pushes more fluid per mm then a 19mm bore.


actually, that's not quite right....the cylinder bore is the same at 19mm, but you have an extra 2mm of leverage on the lever, so you get more brake power for the same amount of pull on the lever.

also, direct from brembo..."match the pivot length of the lever with the pivot length of the master cylinder (2nd number) " to avoid the binding situation mentioned earlier.

Jon
January 24th, 2008, 04:59 PM
It's illegal in WERA SS too.

Clarkie
January 24th, 2008, 06:06 PM
but legal in CCS :D

Ray-Ray
January 24th, 2008, 06:09 PM
Legal is MRA SS

dave.gallant
January 24th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Legal is MRA SS

MRA.

Supersport.




That's funny right there. 8)

Clarkie
January 24th, 2008, 06:24 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Throttleroller277
January 24th, 2008, 08:12 PM
I don't see where MoM/USBA has actually posted their final rule changes for 2008? Are they finalized? 8)

Clarkie
January 24th, 2008, 08:19 PM
nope, we are trying to get some of the 'proposed' rules changed right now

T Baggins
January 25th, 2008, 08:08 AM
Legal is MRA SS

MRA.

Supersport.




That's funny right there. 8)

We have supersport classes??? Since when?!? Superbike and GP - all the way baby! Supersport is for sissies - and valves are for toilets! Long live 2-strokes!!!!!! :lol:

dragos13
January 25th, 2008, 04:36 PM
i have a brand new 19X18 with lever for $250. pm if interested

Clarkie
February 3rd, 2008, 09:41 AM
guess what, the rule was voted down so brembo master cylinders are still allowed in SS in Utah :D